Black Friday. For some, the words conjure an enticing image of amazing deals, just in time for Christmas. For others, they are only a reminder of the nightmare that awaits those who decide to brave the angry mobs who are all fighting over a limited supply of heavily discounted toasters. If you have never experienced Black Friday for yourself, and you’re wondering if it can be as bad as everyone says, we’ve gathered stories from Reddit of the actual experiences that people have had working retail on the worst retail day of the year. Check it out, and then do the sensible thing: decide to do all of your Christmas shopping online this year.

It Must Have Been an Amazing Bike
On the one hand, riding a bike out of a store without paying for it is stealing. We don’t want to encourage shoplifting, and stores can eventually go under if enough stuff gets stolen from them that they’re not turning over a profit the way that they should.

On the other hand, what choice did this guy have? You read the story: fists were being thrown. Would you be willing to wait in line at a cash register with your hard-won gains, knowing that at any moment, another fight might break out over the bike in your hands? I’m not saying I condone the guy, I’m just saying that I can see where he’s coming from.